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Lengthened Trailing Arms
These are used to increase the tire track (width) and move the tires back for more clearance as well as increased suspension travel, which is desirable for absorbing the shock of landings after jumps and allow for greater articulation over uneven terrain - such as when driving over rocks.
6x6 Trailing Arms
This can get pricey and will often necessitate longer axle rods, upgraded CV joints and sometimes an upgrade to a bus transaxle to handle the stresses you plan on subjecting your driveling to.
Arm Sizing
Lengthened arms are generally described by the amount they are widened and lengthened. A 4x6 lengthened arm is 4 inches wider and 5 inches longer than stock.
Notching Spring Plates
This is a common practice to gain just a little bit more lift and downward travel. It is only recommended that you notch your stock spring plates a maximum of 0.24 inches. Notching them more than this will stress your CV joints and cause undesirable camber, even in an IRS VW.
CV Joint
The CV joints allow you to run your axles at various angles and allows the axles to piston in and out. Without them, the axles would not be able to articulate and you would be able to run a drive suspension. If you increase your suspension travel, you will need to account for driveling angles and consider which CV you would like to use.
CV | Max Angle | Splines |
Type 1 | 12 | 33 |
Type 2 | 17 | 33 |
Type 4 | 22 | 33 |
930 | 25 | 28 |
Type 4 CVs joints include - Porsche 924,944 and VW-181 Thing and they all share the same flanges and stub axle. This stub will fit into the stock Type 1 trailing arm bearing carrier to allow you to run both Type 2 and Type 4 CVs.
Type 2 CV joints can be used in a Type 1 if you use Type 181 (Thing) flanges and stub axles.
If you would like to use 930/935 Porsche Turbo CV joints and axles, it will cost you. Besides the spendy CV joints X 4, and axles, you will need specially fabricated axle shafts and stub axles.
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High Angle Drive Axles
These use high angle U-joints and can get pretty spending. There is concern that they don't give like regular axles and will destroy a VW transmission.
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never seen these before, are they better that cv's?
Axles
According to Blind Chicken and others:
Size Axle Length Transmission From Stock 15.625" Converted to IRS Stock 16.25" Stock IRS Stock 18.75" Bus, 5.75" Rear Section 2x3 18.75" early IRS bus 3" longer 17.25" Bus 3x3 19.25" Bus Trans, Stock Rear 4x5 20.5" Vanagon automatic transmission left side axles 5x5 21.5" Vanagon five speed axles - most common 6x6 22.5" Vanagon automatic transmission right side - rarer
Here is a listing of Sway-Away Axles used in VW applications for planning purposes.
Sway-Away VW 33 Tooth Axles, 2 3/8" Long Spline, Type I, II, III
Description | Length | Part # | MSRP |
Conversion, IRS Bug Trans In Bug Chassis | 15 5/8" | 2015 | $210.00 |
Replaces Stock Axles In Bug Chassis | 16 1/4" | 2016 | $210.00 |
Racing Applications | 16 3/4" | 2016-7 | $219.00 |
Bus Trans With 3" Longer Trailing Arms | 17 1/4" | 2017 | $219.00 |
Bug Trans, Stock Length Arms, 5 3/4" Rear Section | 18 3/4" | 2018 | $219.00 |
Bus Trans, 3" Longer By 3" Wider Arms, Stock Rear | 19 1/4" | 2019 | $248.00 |
Racing Applications | 20 1/4" | 2020 | $248.00 |
Racing Applications | 22" | 2022 | $248.00 |
Spiroloc Circlip, For 33 Spline VW Axles, Each | NA | 2410 | $1.40 |
Sway-Away VW/Porsche 356 Swing Axle Applications
Length | Year/Model | Description | Part No. | MSRP |
26 11/16" | 61-66 Bug | Short Spline | 2260 | $295.00 |
23 11/16" | Drag Cars, 3" Shorter Than Stock | Short Spline | 2261 | $390.00 |
21 11/16" | Drag Cars, 5" shorter Than Stock | Short Spline | 2262 | $390.00 |
27 11/16" | 1967 Bug | Short Spline | 2265 | $295.00 |
28 7/16" | 1968 Bug & Type III | Long Spline | 2270 | $310.00 |
Sway-Away Porsche 930 28 Tooth Axles, 3" Long Spline
Description | Length | Part # | MSRP |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 15 5/8" Long | 15 5/8" | 2415 | $285.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 16 1/4" Long | 16 1/4" | 2416 | $285.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 16 3/4" Long (5-16 cars) | 16 3/4" | 2416-7 | $305.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 17 1/2" Long | 17 1/2" | 2417 | $305.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 18 3/4" Long | 18 3/4" | 2418 | $305.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 19 1/4" Long | 19 1/4" | 2419 | $305.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 20 1/4" Long | 20 1/4" | 2420 | $305.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 21 3/8" Long | 21 3/8" | 2421 | $310.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 22" Long | 22" | 2422 | $310.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 22 1/2" Long | 22 1/2" | 2422.5 | $310.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 23" Long | 23" | 2423 | $310.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 24" Long | 24" | 2424 | $320.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 25" Long | 25" | 2425 | $320.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 26" Long | 26" | 2426 | $320.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 27" Long | 27" | 2427 | $320.00 |
Porsche 930 Axle Set, 28" Long | 28" | 2428 | $350.00 |
Special Order Porsche Axle Set | Special | 2400 | $625.00 |
Spiroloc Circlips For Porsche 930 Axles, Each | 2411 | $1.40 |
Sway-Away Porsche 930 28 Tooth, 3" Long Spline, Racing Axles
Description | Length | Part # | MSRP |
Racing Applications | 16 9/16" | 32416 | $525.00 |
Racing Applications (5-16 cars) | 16 3/4" | 32416-7 | $525.00 |
Bus Trans, 3" Longer By 3" Wider Arms, Stock Rear | 19 1/4" | 32419 | $525.00 |
Racing Applications | 20 1/4" | 32420 | $525.00 |
Racing Applications | 21 3/8" | 32421 | $575.00 |
Racing Applications | 22" | 32422 | $575.00 |
Racing Applications | 23" | 32423 | $575.00 |
Racing Applications | 24" | 32424 | $605.00 |
Racing Applications | 25" | 32425 | $605.00 |
Racing Applications | 26" | 32426 | $605.00 |
Racing Applications | 27" | 32427 | $605.00 |
Racing Applications | 28" | 32428 | $605.00 |
Racing Applications | 29" | 32429 | $605.00 |
Racing Applications | 29 1/2" | 32429.5 | $605.00 |
Special Order 28 Spline Axle Set, Racing | Any | 32400 | $750.00 |
Cut Fee for Pair of Axles, Racing Applications | 32401 | $155.00 | |
930 C.V. Porsche Axle Set with Bubble, 28 Tooth | Any | 32402 | $770.00 |
Spiroloc Circlips For Porsche 930 Axles, Each | 2411 | $1.40 |
Finding Axle Shaft Angles
The easiest way to do this is with protractor on level ground and a little guesstemating. But if it is raining out or if you don't have a protractor, then you can give a shot at computing it. The geometry on the rear end of the VW is a little more complicated than one may first consider. The axles don't just move straight up and down when you hit bumps or tweak your torsion bars. The rear suspension in part moves in an arc around the center of the torsion bar. On IRS models, it moves in less noticeable arc that changes the camber for the rear wheels and causes the axle shafts to piston in and out of the CV joints. And on swing axles, the axle housings force the spring plates to twist as the axle pivots more so on the transmission.
Longer and wider trailing arms my decrease some of the arcing effects of the suspension as it articulates, but can also add other problems - like down right improper alignment, binding, etc. Note that the following calculators simply calculate 2 point and 3 point vectors and may not reflect exact changes on your VW after you install your fancy lengthened trailing arms.
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More on the math:
The two vectors are represented by:
f = (1, 0, 0)T
g = (x, y, z)T
The lengths are:
| f |2 = (1, 0, 0)T · (1, 0, 0)T = 1 + 0 + 0 = 1
| g |2 = (x, y, z)T · (x, y, z)T = x2 + y2 + z2
The normalized vectors are:
fu = (1, 0, 0)T / √ 1
gu = (x, y, z)T / √ x2 + y2 + z2
The dot product is:
fu · gu = (1, 0, 0)T · (x, y, z)T / (√ 1 √ x2 + y2 + z2)
= (x + 0 + 0)/(√ x2 + y2 + z2) = x / r
The angle is:
cos θ = x / r
θ = arc cos (x / r)
The final angle calculation seems to make sense as you are comparing the horizontal distance to the new hypotenuse, which should give you the new angle of your axles if it is dropped down y inches or CMs and back z inches or CMs. But, it's been a long time since I had to do this in school. If this math is incorrect, then the calculator above is programmed incorrectly. Please let me know if you think this is the case, especially if you have a solution.
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